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86 | Laziness

Jonathan Rich

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Can embracing the work ethic of an ant transform your life? Join us on this thought-provoking episode of The Every Day Christian Podcast as we explore the powerful biblical lessons on diligence and laziness. Drawing from the wisdom of Proverbs and Ecclesiastes, we contrast the industrious nature of ants with the lethargy of sluggards, highlighting how diligence paves the way to prosperity while laziness leads to poverty. We encourage you to adopt an "ant mentality" for greater productivity and fulfillment in your Christian walk!

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Speaker 1:

You work, you prepare, you provide, you know. When you see these types of things, you're really left up with two choices Do you keep dreaming about it or do you get after it. Yeah, Welcome back to the Everyday Christian Podcast, where we apply scriptural principles to everyday Christian lives.

Speaker 2:

I'm Sean Sloggett and I'm John Rich, and today we are going to talk about something a little bit differently. Sean, laziness I don't really have a fancy title, but laziness is what we want to discuss today in this episode. That's laziness, fancy title, but laziness is what we want to discuss today in this episode. It's lazy before, yeah, it's lazy. You know, we had some lazy. Uh, it's a lazy podcast. I guess, if you will, we should wear PJs. I do have to promote something you guys are probably aware of Boom, the everyday Christian podcast. Mugs, cups, what do you call them? Tumblers. That's it for $25. You can get this shipped to your door. It is the Everyday Christian Podcast. Please buy one of those. Support the show, support our cause, support what we're doing and obviously that money will go towards the podcast, amongst other mission works. So if you do want to buy one of those, just send us a message. You can send it on Facebook, whatever platform you want to, to get a hold of us and we will send that out to you.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to start us off by reading a few scriptures here. Proverbs 6 and 6, Go to the aunt, thou sluggard, consider her ways and be wise. Proverbs 13 and 4, the soul of the sluggard desireth and hath nothing, but the soul of the diligent shall be made fat. And Ecclesiastes 10 and 18, by much slothfulness the building decayeth, and through idleness of the hands the house droppeth through Brother Jonathan.

Speaker 2:

You know there's even more on that Proverbs 6 I was thinking about. There's a lot that goes into that. You all know that scripture. Consider the ant, oh, sluggard, and I'm going to show you sort of the contrast between the sluggard and the ant in this episode. I'm probably going to talk way too much about ants and I know now way too much about ants, so it's really interesting there.

Speaker 2:

But oftentimes when we I think we read that scripture, what we think of is a lazy person versus a non-lazy person and that's a, that's a pretty. You know, basic like that. That is essentially what that scripture says. But there there is a little bit deeper thought into it. You know, when we talk about the Anne O Slugger, consider her ways, be wise. Without having any chief officer or ruler, she prepares her bread in summer and gathers her food in the harvest.

Speaker 2:

There's a lot to that. How will you sleep there? How long will you sleep there, o Slugger? When will you arise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber and want like an armed man. You know there's a lot to unpack there in those verses, but the main idea is this. I'm not certain who said it, but I believe it perfectly summarizes this verse. It says a lack of diligence leads to a steady and unrelenting stream of poverty. The things about ants is that they not only work hard, but they work diligently hard, brother Sean.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, proverbs does speak a couple different times of laziness. These you know, for example, and the ant is one that's always kind of intriguing when you read up on it. We've heard several ministers and teachers, I'm sure, teach on them, but their work ethic seems to be impeccable. It seems like they're always on the go. They're always working together On the go. Yeah, they're always working together. That's something that stood out to me is, when you see them, most of the time there's a whole line of them going on, and there's science. There's several things behind that as well, yeah, and the fact that they make good use of their time, yeah, that's what's big.

Speaker 2:

I think here is the diligence. The word diligence is huge of their time. Yeah, that's what's big. I think here is the diligence. You know the diligent. The word diligence is huge and it it makes you know.

Speaker 2:

When I think of an ant, I think of diligence because it's someone who is careful and persistent in work and in effort. It's a strategic work. It's not just I'm going to use the word sporadically a couple of times here, but it's not just a work that is sporadically, but they have patterns, they have forms. Sometimes those patterns change, but for the most part they stay the same and they form. But a sluggard, on the other hand, I'm showing you those contrasts. But I want to show you different contrasts with the ant. But as described here in Proverbs, is one who is lazy, sleepy or slow moving. They're not alert.

Speaker 2:

Oftentimes what I find, brother Sean, and we're talking about what Proverbs calls a sluggard and what Proverbs calls an ant. So when you hear me say the word sluggard, just know I'm talking about lazy people. And when you see or hear me say the word ant, just know that I'm talking about diligent, hardworking, consistent people. I want to make that known before you're like man, they're just talking about ants. I'm not doing that. I'm talking about you. Some of you so. But but oftentimes what I find brother Sean is a sluggard watches an ant with jealousy instead of with a willingness to learn from it. But you never have an ant watching a slugger or someone with an ant mentality watching a lazy person, because that ant mentality is mission minded. It doesn't quit or rest until the mission is over, at least for that day.

Speaker 2:

The crazy thing about all this we always see ants moving all the time. You know, if you've ever been outside and you've played in the dirt and you've seen those little piles, and I think every one of us have probably put our foot like down in it or like moved it with a stick or something. And then all of a sudden, these hundreds and hundreds of thousands of ants come out of nowhere. But they are inside of those those dirt piles, working. Okay, they are gathering food, they're trying to do all these things. But the crazy thing about ants you know, we always think that, to be someone who's moving and always doing something, they actually do rest, they do sleep.

Speaker 2:

People don't realize that when you think about the ant and that's the contrast I was trying to talk about. We think we have to be doing work all the time, 24-7. We never get a break, we never get a siesta, we never get a time away from the mission, and that's just not true. We can have times of rest. We can have times of what they call sabbaticals. You know, we can't have times of being away from the ministry for a period of time. There's nothing wrong with that. I want you to understand that. I want you to realize that when we consider the ant and her ways, you need to consider the ant and all of her ways, not just the work, the hard things that they do. There's a lot to unpack, there's a lot to do there, but there's also the rest.

Speaker 2:

Rest is needed in the work of the God. Rest is needed in your day-to-day life. Maybe you do just a simple job. Maybe you're not someone with a title or a ministry or whatever. Maybe you're a mechanic or you're a computer nerd like me, you know, maybe you're something like that, but you still need rest from some of the things. But here is the kicker you need rest from things that you're working hard on so that you can bounce back and do more. So you can bounce back and do better.

Speaker 2:

A lazy person rests all the time. A lazy person doesn't care about the work so long as they get the glory for it. A lazy person has a mentality that it's me, me, me, me, me, I, I, I, I, I, and doesn't care about anyone else around them. There's nothing wrong with sleeping, there's nothing wrong with resting. Jesus did that. But when we think of the sluggard or the lazy, they're always quick or slow to get up. Their brains don't function as quickly, they aren't as quick as others and most of the time, instead of blaming themselves, they blame those who work hard and try to do a work for God or try to provide for their families. Brother Sean, Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

You know the motivation behind the ants has inspired people for thousands of years. Yeah, you know in so much that it's mentioned multiple times throughout the bible. You know, in proverb 6 we're talking about, we see the, the writer, telling people go out and study this tiny, just minuscule. I mean, what are they? Maybe a quarter inch long, if that Depends? Yeah, I mean just the smallest little things. Saying go out and study them, consider its motivation, consider its work ethic, consider its togetherness, consider all these things about it. And you said something just a minute ago. You said to consider all of it, not just one part of it. Right, and I feel like that's what we need to do. Ants are very busy, but in their busyness they're accomplishing something because they're all together. It's everything about them. We all know people that are busybodies as well. Yeah, and on the flip side of laziness, just because you're a busybody doesn't necessarily mean you're doing things either. Right, and I believe that because I know some people that work very hard at being lazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's kind of weird to think of it that way, but we all know some people like that. Yeah, we will do extra work to get out of having to do what we were told to do because we don't want to do it or it's too hard. So we try figuring out how to get around it, and oftentimes we probably work harder getting out of something that we do. So just because you're a busy body doesn't necessarily mean that you're not lazy, but that together and everything about the ant is what helps it get there. You know they prepare. Part of the reason they do what they do is because they are preparing for the bad times for those things to come. Right, you know they feel the cold air moving in around harvest time so they start they actually eat more. I don't know exactly what, but you know they start like building their bodies up to prepare for those kind of things and getting themselves ready for it.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's something that you said. The word motivation, it's. What is their motivation? Obviously, if you don't know this, an ant's motivation is to protect and help the queen ant Like. That's what they strive for. They want to get food. They've got scavengers, they've got different people, different ants working to do something, and that's what's beautiful about it too. You don't have to be the same.

Speaker 1:

You don't have to be the queen ant.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, it's exactly what I, what I was getting at, you know, in this scenario. To me, you know, when you talk about doing a work for god, um, that queen ant represents to me god. You know, it represents the work of god. You know, we're all doing it with, with a mission in mind, and we all rely on each other. We can't do it on our own.

Speaker 2:

The lazy sluggard has the mindset that I can do it on my own and I better get praised for doing it on my own. Or I'm going to do this little bit over here, even though these people over here are doing tons of things, tons of works for God, tons of things that that are great. If I do this little thing over here, I hope I get recognized for it or some sort of recognition for it, and that's not the right mindset. That's not an ant mindset. An ant mindset is doing things for God with one another, with other people that all have different walks of life, they come from different backgrounds, they all do something differently and they do it without caring who gets credit for it On the flip side not the flip, but on the secular, the worldly side of that.

Speaker 1:

You know me being somebody who is self-employed, I do. I do pressure washing, junk removal cleanup style stuff. Yeah, demo work, some light things like that. I know winters are going to get very slow for me. Yeah, nobody wants their house pressure washed when it's 30 degrees and snowing outside. That's just part of life. So I try to work hard and save up as much as I can, because I know that when it starts cooling off things are going to fall off.

Speaker 1:

You know I don't just lay around all summer long hoping and waiting that maybe hopefully some work will come in, or hopefully this. You know I'm not waiting on Uncle Sam to help take care of me during the winter.

Speaker 2:

Because he's, because you'd be done for he's failed me already.

Speaker 1:

But you know, you work, you prepare, you provide, you know, when you see these types of things, uh, you're, you're, you. You're really left up with two choices do you keep dreaming about it or do you get after it. You know, we talk about wanting mission works, wanting to start bus ministries, wanting to help the homeless, wanting to do all these things, and we dream about it and dream about it, and dream about it, and dream about it, and dream about it. Right, and all of a sudden, it's five years down the road and guess what? We're still wanting a bus ministry, we're still wanting to do whatever it is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've been to a lot of churches like that, Unfortunately with that same mindset.

Speaker 1:

The lazy man will keep dreaming about it while sitting on his couch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah you're right, and the determined, diligent man will chase after it.

Speaker 1:

When I wanted to start my own business, obviously I did things. I sat down, we looked at analytics, we tried doing different studies and different things to see if it was something that would work for me and my family, but eventually I had to act on it. I had a 9 to 5 job, 10 to 6, really I had a 10 to 6 job, but before 10 o'clock, if I wasn't out talking to people advertising after 6 o'clock, if I wasn't out talking to people advertising after six o'clock, if I wasn't out talking advertising, picking up these little jobs, I'd have still been sitting at home. I feel like right now, two and a half years later right, not quite two and a half years, but close to it I'd still be sitting on my couch thinking about man. One of these days I'm going to own my own business. Who knows, it may flop, yeah, but it's not going to flop, with me sitting on the couch. I'm chasing after it. I got up, I pushed for it, I tried to see what I was active in pursuing that dream.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people have goals and visions. I would say a majority of people probably have those, but the action is what separates the slugger from the ant. You know you think about it. Might've been your dad. I can't remember who it was, but who I was talking to. It's been a few years back. But they said God bless his effort.

Speaker 2:

And that's so huge and it's been a few years back, but they said God bless his effort. And that's so huge. And it's so true because not everything about your business has been perfect, not, you know. Not everything has been just, you know, up high on the mountain by any means. And I I I say that about you but, like a lot of you are listening and I know I face things where you know things have failed or you know ministries haven't went quite as how I thought they would go, but but you try and it's like that effort that you put into it.

Speaker 2:

I believe that God honors that. I believe that God blesses you for that. And there's times where you know Brother Sean, you could attest to this probably but you're like, you're working hard, you're grinding is what you know, the new word nowadays you know you're putting in the grind, you're doing all these things, and even though you're putting in the grind and the wheels are spinning and it seems like you're not getting anywhere, but then here comes something on the side that comes in and it's like God just gifts it to you. But he didn't just gift it to you. It's not him just laying it on, laying it in your lap as a as a present. He's doing that because of the art of sowing and reaping. He's doing that because if you sow good seed, you're going to bring forth good fruit, and I think that that's so important.

Speaker 2:

You know, we talk about the difference between a sluggard or a lazy person and someone who's ant minded. You know, someone who doesn't blame others for everything that's going on and I'll get into that in a moment who doesn't want all the glory, who doesn't want people to feel badly for them, but it's someone who relies on the help of everyone else. They refuse to give up or give any glory to themselves. They aren't worried about how others feel or think about them. They aren't worried about bragging on what they've done. They are just there to work hard and to help others along the way.

Speaker 1:

I asked this question a while back and I've continued to ponder it and this will tie into where you're talking about right now and maybe help you jump into the rest of it. But I've wondered if Christian culture has contributed to the laziness in men and that's a harsh statement, I know it is, but growing up we have heard well, God will provide. Yeah, and I believe he will Hear me out on this. Wait on God's timing. In his perfect timing, he'll make it happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

God will make a way. And again, I understand and I agree with these things. But where is the teaching on? But, whatsoever the hand findeth to do, do it Love with all thy heart, with all thy soul, with all thy mind love with all thy heart, with all thy soul, with all thy mind.

Speaker 1:

Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you. Not think, not dream, not hope, but do. Yeah, we need God, we need his direction. He will provide things for us, but he blesses effort. And if we get to a point where we're sitting around waiting on God's timing, waiting on him to make a way, waiting on him to open the door, and we're just sitting there twiddling our thumbs, that is laziness. Yeah, you know, I think I've used this example before. I think I used it here recently. But you talk about a waiter. You think of a waiter at a restaurant. They don't go just sit in the corner. A good waiter I know there are others, but a good waiter or waitress is not going to just go sit over in the corner. They're constantly moving throughout the whole restaurant because they've got 5, 10, 15 tables, whatever, and they are moving around. Do you need a refill? Do you need a refill? Can I get that plate out of your way? Would you like some more chips and salsa? What about?

Speaker 2:

dessert, can I do?

Speaker 1:

these? Yeah, they are actively working towards their goal, which is getting paid and getting a good tip. Yeah, if they sat over in the corner, probably not going to get that good of a tip Right. But they're moving throughout, they're working, they're trying to do something and I believe that when we're waiting on God to provide, when we're waiting on his timing, what are we doing?

Speaker 2:

in the meantime.

Speaker 1:

Are we actively still moving about, trying to see what we can do? I'm not saying act on impulse, just go crazy and just hope it all works. We do need to prepare, we need to study, but you still have to act.

Speaker 2:

It just goes back and forth. To that what I was mentioning earlier about doing the work. You know, sometimes there's going to be ministries that fail. I mean there's bound to be ministries and works that fail. But everything that you do, to me it's just a stepping stone to something greater. It's just a stepping stone to something greater. And how are you ever going to get to the place where God wants you, or to the work that God wants you in, if you're not doing anything to take those steps? On those stepping stones you know, think about.

Speaker 2:

I've mentioned this before many times, I'll just keep it brief here. But, like my life, like I think about the little things that lead me to where I am today. I talked to the youth about this last night. It's like man, if I had thought at 15, I'd be where I am today or I'd face some of the things I did today, I'd probably want to give up. But little by little, like through my life, since I've accepted Christ as my Savior and growing in Him and being strengthened by Him, little by little it's just my faith in Him has grown, but the work that I do for Him has grown as well. I've wanted and desire to do more. You know the Bible says again I mentioned this to the teens last night but the Bible says that all things work together for the good to them who love God, who are called according to his purpose. You know God loves you, god has called you, there's works that you can do and eventually things are going to work together. You may not see, you know whatever it is, you feel like God's called you or spoke to you about. Come to fruition right now. But that doesn't mean you stop. That doesn't mean you do nothing. That's a sluggard mentality. But an ant mentality is we're going to keep working in this anthill until it's time to move on to the next anthill. We're going to work in that anthill until it's time to move on to the bigger anthill and continually do that. You know the reason why some of you can't grow your church or strengthen your church is because you are sporadically doing different random works that others have done or you can think of and after two weeks of not seeing immediate results you give up. The reason why some of you live in poverty or don't live in a state of fruitfulness we're talking secular now is because you don't have the grind, determination, grit or consistency that the ant has.

Speaker 2:

I know that we're living in tough times. I know that everyone is struggling. I know that it seems like making and saving money is harder now than it ever has been before. But I also know that there are people out there right now who are not wealthy by any means, who are making it, who are striving, who are saving. You know that sluggard mentality says look at what the government is doing, look at the prices of everything going up. Look at the taxes. Look at the rich, who are only getting richer. Look at the things that Joe Biden is doing, while the ant says I'm going to do everything I can to make it. I'm going to do everything I can that my family will make it. I'm going to do everything I can to help others make it. I'm going to do sacrifice some days of enjoyment for a short while so that I can be set up in the long run.

Speaker 2:

No matter who Obama or Biden or Bush is president, or Trump is president he's in jail. No, he's not in jail yet or Trump is president, it doesn't matter. We all go through different financial things. Yeah, it's probably worse than it ever has been before, but this is not the first time our economy has been bad. This is not the first time we've went through struggles. There are people in the 30s that have went through way worse struggles than you're going through right now. I'm just saying it's not time to put your head down and blame everybody else. It's time to get up, work, do something, put the grind in. It may not be something you're going to forever do, but if you put the grind in, it's going to be a stepping stone for you to do that in the future, brother Sean.

Speaker 1:

I had a guy that worked for me for a little while that we were tearing some flooring out and I got on Facebook on a local page. You said, hey, I need some help. If anybody looking for any work, message me. And I think the number over. We started the job on a Friday, so on a Friday which we didn't work Saturday and Sunday, but I had the post out. So Friday, monday and Tuesday. Over those days I had I believe it was 32 people reach out to me and say, hey, we're interested in the job, can we work, you know whatever and say hey, we're interested in the job, can we work whatever? Out of those 32, I think there was 15 said I'll be there. So about half of them said I'll be there. Five of those 15 showed up. Two of them showed up late but they showed up and they worked.

Speaker 1:

Two of them showed up, worked about 15, 20 minutes maybe Came and shook my hand, said it was too hard and they were going home.

Speaker 1:

The joys of owning a business. Yeah, and one of them said I'll be there at I think it was noon because it was on Monday when all the others kept falling through. He said I'll be there about noon and he messaged me and said, hey, I'll be there about noon. And he messaged me and said, hey, I'll be five minutes late, I'm trying to get there. So I was like hey, where are you at? He said I'm fixing to come up to the Walmart which was right across the street from this college campus we were working at, and five minutes late and you're right across the street, I could see the Walmart.

Speaker 1:

So I hey you know, in my mind you're thinking are you having car troubles? Are you needing gas? Do you need to get a drink? So I was like, hey, this is my number, call me. So he calls me and I'm like, hey, you know, is everything okay? And he said, yeah, I'm walking. I said you're walking here, and he said, yeah, I'm walking there. I said, well, just hold on, I'll come get you. So I went and picked him up and got to talking to him and he had walked about four and a half miles over there to work.

Speaker 1:

He walked four and a half miles jogged whatever. Yeah, four and a half miles to work. We got to talking a little more and he was working two other jobs as well. So he had just moved to Tulsa from out of town where he had been in a bunch of trouble. He was trying to get his life cleaned up but he needed money so he could pay off some warrants and things.

Speaker 1:

He was working two jobs and walked about four and a half miles to come work with me Tearing up flooring Not just some easy job, flipping burgers or anything. I mean we were tearing a basketball court out that had flooded.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So it was hard work. So I took him home and I said, hey, you want to work tomorrow? He said, yeah, I'll work tomorrow, Showed up to his house, picked him up, brought him back to work and very hard worker, and at the end of that week I told him man, you're hired. Yeah, that's it you didn't quit those other jobs or whatever, I don't care, you're hired. And I just told him. I said I don't know, I don't know. I probably couldn't name you five people if I was being honest, that would walk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

To go do a job while working two other jobs.

Speaker 2:

If I'm being honest, I don't know that I would. I don't know if I've ever walked five miles in my whole life.

Speaker 1:

Donovan's still at four and a half. Yeah, but this young man, he was determined.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was going to get his life clean, right.

Speaker 1:

And he worked for me for quite a while, but I don't know just as a boss, you know, looking at somebody like that, seeing the determination, the drive that he had, made me want to be better.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, this guy that's making a few bucks an hour, he wasn't benefiting much. I mean he was making money off of it, but it wasn't like I was trying to give him Right. That's the definition of determined. Absolutely I mean diligent. This kid was not lazy in the least bit.

Speaker 1:

If you told him, I guarantee I could have asked him, said hey, man, what time are you getting off work? Are you getting off at 6? Okay, I'll pick you up at 6.15 from your work and we'll go. And he'd have been there, his clothes would have been changed and he'd have been sitting there waiting on me. And the reason I guarantee he would have done that is because a couple times I went and picked him up at like 7 o'clock in the morning and he looked wore out, yeah, and he'd be like man, is there any way we can stop by Quick Trip. I'm like, yeah, let's go. So we'd go in there and he'd get a little bite to eat and we'd get to the job and he'd take off and come to find out he got off at six o'clock and I picked him up at seven to go to work that kid was an aunt, yeah, yeah, and I think we come up with a lot of excuses not to do just that.

Speaker 2:

You know, and most of you like I'm not trying to be harsh, big bad John over here, being mean, but you know, if you're physically unable, that's one thing. If you're physically able, most of you don't have warrants that you're having to pay off. Most of you don't have a ton of debt that you're having to pay off. Some of you just need to get some grind in you, get some grit in you. Some of you just need to go. I mean, you talked about this man walking five miles. Some of you don't walk five miles. In a week, two weeks, three weeks. I've walked more than five miles in my life. I was just teasing. It's been a long time, though 5.3.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I've walked 5.1 miles All life. I was just teasing. It's been a long time, though, 5.3. Yeah, I've walked 5.1 miles. All right, let's just. But to come up with so many excuses is a sluggard mentality. It's a mentality that is lazy. Blaming everybody else, that's a sluggard mentality. Nobody can do anything to stop you from raising money, from helping people who are hurting, from doing a work for God, from doing something right where you're at. You're like man, there's nothing here, there's nobody to help me. Cool, do it anyway. Eventually, somebody will come along and help you. Do it anyway. Maybe nobody will come along and help you. Do it anyway. Do it Anyway. Maybe nobody will come along and help you. Do it anyway. Do it Because that's what you're called to do. We are called to be and consider and be like the aunt, brother Sean.

Speaker 1:

We need to take care of ourselves as well. I know we're talking a lot about not being lazy and going and doing and Brother Jonathan has already mentioned this but we need to take care of ourselves as well. Yeah, right, everything needs care and maintenance. Yeah, if you slack off on anything, it's going to deteriorate and fall apart. Right, homes, vehicles, marriages, your Christian walk, your personal body they need care and maintenance. Laziness will cause us to say tomorrow or this weekend, but determination will say why not today? But we have to take care of ourselves.

Speaker 1:

Action is necessary for our lives today, but we have to take care of ourselves. Action is necessary for our lives. Without it, we fail. Everything in our life needs action. If you get up in the morning, you have to get out of bed. That's action. When you go to get in your vehicle, you have to push on the brake, you have to put it in gear. You have to get out of bed. That's action. When you go to get in your vehicle, you have to push on the brake, you have to put it in gear. You have to accelerate Action. Everything we do requires action. So if I could encourage anybody, it's take action, spiritually, physically, mentally. Just take some action. It will pay off in the end.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely Well. I want to thank everybody I don't know that you got it, that's everybody for listening in those who have supported us. A couple things to announce. Obviously, we've got the mugs $25. The Everyday Christian Podcast mugs really great. They keep your water cold for, like I don't know, 24 hours or something like that.

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I said, I know it, but I just love it. But, yes, they do really work. 25 that includes. That includes shipping. They work great.

Speaker 2:

There is another thing. I don't have the sign up, but virtual youth classes. We are going to be starting those probably June 11th that's a Thursday so if you are interested in that, please message us, let us know and we'll get you included in that. I actually wanted to end this episode, but it's so cool. He snuck around and he got the uh, the virtual, the virtual classes. Uh, a little poster board thing there. I need to. I should have had it behind me. No, you're good on the other one, uh, but yeah, if you want to, if you want to join those classes, let me know. Uh, message us and we'll. We'd be happy to help you there. There's a lot of questions that teens have asked, and even adults I've had some 30 year olds want to know some things. So we're going to, we're going to do that. It's going to be really great.

Speaker 2:

I did want to end this episode. You know this, this podcast episode. Most of you probably know of the horrific tragedy that happened last week in the killing of Davy and Natalie Lloyd there in Haiti. I just wanted to take a moment here in the end of this episode to just honor them and to tell everyone that we honor them and are thankful for the work that they did while in Haiti and thankful for the sacrifice that they made.

Speaker 2:

I'm thankful for you know, I knew her. I didn't know him very well. I know their family very, very well, but to see that come across the news, it makes you want to hold your loved ones tighter because you just never know when something or if something like that could happen. But I wanted to end this and say that we honor them, we thank them for their work and are thankful to know that they're in God's hands now. But at the end as well, we want to just say that for the Lloyd family, for the Baker family, for the Thomas family, for everybody all the family and friends that are included in that that we care about you, we love you, we're praying for you. If there's anything you ever need, we're just a phone call, text message, facebook message away and we want to let you know that and we love and appreciate you all. If you are listening to this, take a moment and pray for the Lloyd family. Take a moment and pray for the Baker family. That God will comfort them during this time, brother Sean.

Speaker 1:

No, we do appreciate them. They're a great family. I've never actually had the chance to meet Davey and Natalie, but I've met a lot of their family over the years. I may have met Natalie when she was younger, but not that I'm aware of. But very good people and we are heartbroken with them. But we do love and appreciate the family as well and we do continue to pray for them as well, as I'm sure a lot of you all are. But just continue to not trying to compare myself to them in any way. I'm not trying to compare myself to them in any way, but I lost my father-in-law. He lived about a half a mile from me and I lost him in September of last year. I was one of the ones that was there when it all happened or just right after it had happened.

Speaker 1:

But you don't realize, and even more so for them but you don't. You know oftentimes the hurt, the sadness. You know, even for us, that. You know we get up and we see Facebook posts and stuff about it. We hurt again, but that lingers far beyond just those few days. You know the funeral we had for my father-in-law was a week after he passed and that one week was just miserable and horrible, but people began to heal. You know the ones that aren't as close. You know they healed a lot quicker, yeah, but for us that nightmare was still there, because you had to get up and realize that. You know his truck's still on the drive, yeah, and one can only imagine what they're dealing with. You know, we've all I'm sure we've all had different thoughts and fears like that. Come along, but just continue throughout the next months you know, the next year whatever, if you can put them on your prayer list.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you know that that mission work I'm sure is going to go on. Yeah, put that mission work on your list yeah you know, brother, brother, jude, never met him. Put that family on your list, right, because they're going to need it. Right, not just this week, but for a long time to come. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And at the end of this episode I'm actually going to. I'll put a link in the description below in our different platforms to where you can go and donate to those ministries as well. There's a GoFundMe up for, I think, all three or another, maybe just the two family members, I'm not sure, but I'll get the info and I'll add it on there as well.

Speaker 1:

I believe the ones for Brother Jude was the missionsinhatedcom. I think if you go directly to their website, but we will get all that up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we'll put those links up for you. But yeah, we want to thank everybody for listening, for joining in again. Again, you're listening to the Everyday Christian Podcast, where we apply scriptural principles to everyday Christian lives, and we want to thank you again and say God bless, god bless you all. Thank you you.

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